01 December 2013

Uncertainty principle, time reversal, hidden symmetry


About 11 p.m., August 17, 2013.  Played piano a little tonight after not playing for months and months.  I hope to get back to it, and then get better at it, soon!

What a normal person would say upon hearing that the uncertainty principle prohibits an arbitrarily precise measurement of both position and velocity is, “well, something that’s moving doesn’t have a position associated with it, because it’s moving!  So of course it’s moved on from where it was when you started to measure its position!”

I was just reading in “Quarks:  The Stuff of Matter” by Harald Fritzsch, p. 9, when that thought occurred to me.  Fritzsch says, “In a certain sense, the notions of velocity and location are complementary.”

Now the extremes of location and velocity in combination that we can imagine are:  a particle at rest (all location, no velocity) and a particle with, somehow, velocity but no location. 
 
The idea of a "particle" is the idea of a dot, like the period at the end of this sentence.  So in this extreme case--imagining a definite location and zero velocity--the uncertainty principle’s prohibition on knowing the particle’s velocity is exactly zero calls into question the very idea of a particle.

The other extreme case would be a moving particle, and the more rapidly moving it is, the more extreme it is.  Experimentally speaking, you can still locate it at a particular time by bouncing a quick flash of light off it, but in the quantum realm, it recoils slightly when you do.  Theoretically speaking, if you know its equation of motion and its initial location and velocity, a graph can be drawn of its position (location, location, and later location) as a function of time.  But the uncertainty principle prohibits knowing with arbitrary or unlimited precision both it's initial location and velocity (or momentum, really).
 
This extreme case of no location is the more difficult to imagine, but is approximated by a light wave, which is said to have zero rest mass because it only exists in its traveling-at-the-speed-of-light state.   Actually, this is one reason we should be more precise in talking about the uncertainty principle & discuss location & momentum, rather than location & velocity, because the uncertainty principle DOES apply to light (photons), in spite of the fact that we can measure the velocity of light with a precision not prohibited by the uncertainty principle.  When we measure “c” (speed of light), we aren’t measuring “p” (momentum), which is, for electromagnetic waves,

p = E/c = hνν = h/λ.
 

E = energy, h = Planck’s constant, ν = frequency, λ = wavelength
 

12:10 p.m. Sat. 26 Oct. 2013   Reverse time so that Big Bang is Big Collapse—this is a commonplace thought experiment.  But how do we know how gravity would really behave?  This thought occurred to me after I read Sean Carroll’s sentence “Now let’s run the movie backward,” on page 49 in his From Eternity to Here book.  But there is really nothing in physics that corresponds to running a movie backwards, because the observer is still going forward in time while he watches the movie going backwards.  He or she.

But, a few pages later—surprise—this is pretty much what Sean says, that it isn’t going to show (in the movie) what we would expect, which would be galaxies dissolving into some other, more homogeneous, matter.  Instead, he says, “Growth of structure is an irreversible process that naturally happens toward the future, whether the universe is expanding or contracting.  It represents an increase in entropy.”

Before he says that, he says this about the contraction:  “Imagine that we lived in a universe much like our current one, with the same kind of distribution of galaxies and clusters, but that was contracting rather than expanding.”  So, my mistake!  This is on page 53, and isn’t the same as the “movie run backwards” scenario-ho-ho of p. 49, which was actually his way of getting back to the Big Bang singularity.  The same old analogy!  But he more or less makes my point, and gives it credence, by saying a contracting universe that is like ours would experience an entropy increase.  That is really all we can imagine when we talk about “reversing time” from here, from our current (initial, for collapse) conditions.

(End of Journal – next page contains the end of my eight pages of notes about Dallas trip in June, written backwards from the last page in the journal, a case of writing going backwards in the book, but not of “writing backwards.”)

Sunday 9:15 a.m.  24 NOV 2013 About 30° & overcast. This is from my other journal, the non-scientific one, Sept 10 or 11 2012:

Hidden Symmetry

I got up in the middle of the night on Sunday—early Monday mornin’—to write down the words above. Then later on in the day—wait, it must have been Sat-Sun middle of night, Sept 8th and 9th—later on I opened the Subatomic Physics text, and I encountered those exact words! They are on p. 370 in the section on Massive Gauge Bosons. Hidden symmetry is just one way to refer to the case where the Hamiltonian for the interaction “retains the full symmetry” and only the ground state breaks it. It can occur when “the ground state of the Hamiltonian is degenerate; the choice of a particular state among the degenerate ones then breaks the symmetry.” This stuff ought to be written in my other journal, my scientific one.

(Done.  "Hidden symmetry" in theoretical physics, by the way, is already as common as pig tracks, so this was no great revelation of mine.  Usually instead of calling it hidden, physicists call it broken.  My idea of hidden symmetry would be that the current physics idea of symmetry is what is broken.)
 
Saturday 30 November 2013, 10:15 a.m., sunny with the mercury at about 52° (as they used to say).  To continue where the last entry in my previous journal (physics journal, October 26 of this year) left off, where I said “all we can imagine when we talk about ‘reversing time’. . .”.  Well, I have to correct that to say we can imagine whatever we want, but from the point of view of the whole universe, watching a movie run backwards as a way modeling the reversal of time is nonsense.  The observer of the movie is still going forward in time.  Watching a segment of a movie where someone walks backwards would not tell the observer whether that someone was really walking backwards or the movie was going backwards (let’s assume the feet, which might be a giveaway, aren’t visible in the frame).  But the movie observer knows the movie is being run backwards when an egg is unscrambled and returned to its shell, or a diver comes feet first out of a swimming pool and returns to the diving board.  Thought processes, neurons firing, biological processes and time itself—all of these are still going forward as usual for the movie watcher.  That’s all I’m saying.  And that’s all I can manage to think of because it all seems beyond my rapport with the subject at the moment.